User talk:Cmdireland

List of channels on Sky (UK and Ireland)‎ edits

Hello, your problem is that you have to change rowspan="9"|Sky when removing/adding a section. For example when you remove the section Sky Signature (Bonus) you change the number to 8, and so on. I hope I helped. –Milan Rađenović (talk) 16:05, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

List of channels on Sky (UK and Ireland) - Bonus channels in Ireland.

Hi there, you have recently removed the bonus channels from List of channels on Sky (UK and Ireland) for Ireland claiming "there is no such thing as bonus channels".

Please refer to page 20 of this PDF from Sky that clearly states on the left column, there are bonus channels: Sky_TV_Contract_ROI.pdf]

If this is inaccessible, I have uploaded an image of page 20 here: Sky Bonus image

-- TattooedLeprechaun (talk) 16:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Reply from Disco

---The existence of a bonus pack may or may not be accurate but the pdf is unconvincing evidence. Look at the errors in the bonus pack/signature pack lists alone

Missing from Bonus pack list

• RTÉOne +1
• Virgin Media One+1
• TG4 HD
• BBC Four HD
• CBBC Channel HD
• Cbeebies HD

Missing from Sky Signature list

• Sky Comedy
• Sky Crime*
• Vice
• Sky Witness*
• MTV OMG
• Club MTV
• Sky Sports Racing
• GINX Esports TV
• Star Bharat
• Sony Max 2
• Colors Rishtey
• Colors Cineplex
• Colors
• News 18
• HGTV+1 (timeshift only)
• Film4+1(timeshift only)

Following should be shown as having a +1 in the signature pack

• Discovery Turbo
• MTV Music
• TCM
• W
• Investigation Discovery (ID)

Wrong names

• H2 (History 2)
• Sky Sports News HQ (Sky Sports News)

Wrongly included in Signature pack

• Sky Living*
• Universal*
• Real Lives*
• QUEST*
• Boomerang*
• DMAX*
• Good Food*
• Home*
• MTV Dance
• VH1
• At The Races
• STAR Jalsha
• Zing
• Zee Punjabi
• Sony Mix
• STAR Life OK

I've not checked but I suspect the HD list is also a dog's breakfast. --Disco (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Reply from TattooedLeprechaun

It's the only official current document from Sky there is in relation to the Bonus Pack. The idea was to convince Cmdireland that there are Bonus channels, and that PDF confirms it. I understand it's highly out of date, but logic from the Sky article can address the inaccuracies. TattooedLeprechaun (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I've contacted Sky in relation to this, and they have said this is just a guide for what type of channels are available. They said the Bonus pack still exists with the current Bonus channels listed, but they admit some are missing. TattooedLeprechaun (talk) 13:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Reply from Cmdireland

My point is there is no Bonus Pack. You can't and have never been able to buy the Bonus Pack on Sky ROI. I currently have an ex-ROI viewing card to watch the eir Sport Pack on a Sky HD box (DRX595). I do not have a Sky subscription. When I remove the viewing card, all the BBC channels are viewable, because they are FTA on satellite. I can't watch any RTE, TG4 or Virgin Media channels as they are subscription channels, available on the most basic Sky subscription which is currently the Signature pack and they are subscription channels on every other TV platform here in Ireland except Saorview (DTT) which is the Irish version of Freeview. Even the PDF states the so called Bonus channels are available on the Signature Pack. Personally i think the term bonus in relation to Sky ROI was just a sales tag line when Sky launched in Ireland many years ago

Also 4Music is FTV here in Ireland too. I have it added to Other Channels and is viewable without a subscription

Reply from Disco

That's useful clarification, thanks Cmdireland. I've updated the bonus channel table in case TattooedLeprechaun still thinks it's necessary to include it. Peresonally I think it's an unnecesary complication. The bottom line is either you need the Signature Pack subscription or, for BBC channels, you don't - and that's clear fromt the main tables.

The UK contract on sky.com contains a pretty inaccurate channel listing as well - not as bad as the Irish one but contains many of the same mistakes (and some different ones).

Reply from Cmdireland

Also, with a Sky subscription in Northern Ireland, RTÉ One (SD only), RTÉ2 (SD & HD) and TG4 (SD & HD) are available on 161, 162, 163, 836 & 837. They are not Bonus channels in that region either

The term Bonus came about I think when Sky launched in ROI after the huge success of the UK version. It was a marketing ploy to make customers think they were getting more channels to justify the monthly price. Completely forgetting to mention the numerous channels on Sky UK not available in Ireland (ITV/ITV2/3/4/CITV, BBC News/Parliament/Alba and loads of BBC radio channels, Channel 4 HD/4seven, and the Channel 5 channels) and all the +1 versions

Reply from TattooedLeprechaun

The bonus pack in a sub-category and is part of the Sky Entertainment/Signature pack. I would like to keep it in as it's from an official document from Sky and I think it's important to retain the integrity of what Sky have claimed, whether any of us us agrees that the Bonus pack is needed, is irrelevant, because it comes from an official document from Sky. I do agree that the Bonus pack is not a extra pack one can buy.

In relation to 4Music, that's actually part of the Sky Signature pack in the UK and can be manually tuned in in Ireland. It is unofficially available in the Sky Signature pack in Ireland. It's not available on the Ireland EPG. TattooedLeprechaun (talk) 12:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

MOVED CONVERSATION TO Talk:List_of_channels_on_Sky_(UK_and_Ireland)#Bonus_channels_in_Ireland. as other Sky UK and Ireland editors can have their say. TattooedLeprechaun (talk) 12:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)